Author Topic: I am a professional colorist & would like to try improving your raw footage  (Read 1403 times)

Nikon1

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Re: I am a professional colorist & would like to try improving your raw footage
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2018, 05:28:15 AM »
I pulled a couple individual DNGs out if you want to play with em.

Will do more lens tests if I get time this weekend and the weather cooperates...
Thanks a lot for the Single DNG Files. Downloaded Qucikly. Very impressive Images and way more Dynamic range in those files than i would have ever Expected. I Put them in Photoshop CS6 and played a bit with the Raw file and i am seriously impressed!
Seems like Pritchboxer realy has a point in his statement about the in-Camera color science and so on. I think there could be some things improoved. I guess someone like him Could pull Footage from the RAW which you couldnt tell was shot by the chronos in terms of color. In Fact i was able to get some nice and natural Colors from the RAW and im nowhere near a colorist. But for the Average Chronos-User i think it is quite tricky to get good looking colors from the camera, because not everyone will use RAW and the most of the users who use RAW propably dont have the skills of an professional Colorist...
So, a better in camera color science would be a good thing.

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So, what happened to Pritchboxer?
Are you still here?
Would still love to see what you can do to those DNG´s :)

aaronkondziela

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Likewise!

Pritchboxer

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Sorry guys, been super busy and forgot about this...

So Aaron well done on the footage, exactly what I wanted :)

So in conclusion, the resolution is a bit poor BUT, when shot properly I dare say it's usable in a professional setting when watched online at least. Here's a grade of Aaron's footage:

https://vimeo.com/296841634/895e927c7a


aaronkondziela

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Hey, that turned out to be quite nice! Even the noise characteristic is decent, closer to a film grain feel than digital noise, and probably easily tamed if needed. Thanks for grading it, I now have more confidence this cam could be used in a video production, and not just an engineering context! It's juuust good enough if everything is well-planned and executed.  :D :D :D

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Yes I graded it to look sorta like my Ursa Mini Pro footage :) No noise removal although I could have... also sharpened quite a lot more than I normally would! It honestly looks very nice, its just a bit dull on detail!

I know for a fact the sensor manufacturer makes higher resolution sensors as ive been messaging them for info! I hope Chronos team has something up their sleeve cause this could be a real winner if it was higher resolution also.

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I see like zero evidence of over-sharpening, so whatever you set it at certainly did the trick. Higher res sensor would rock for a next gen camera! This is juuuust good enough to slap into an HD production if everything was set up right.

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I know for a fact the sensor manufacturer makes higher resolution sensors as ive been messaging them for info! I hope Chronos team has something up their sleeve cause this could be a real winner if it was higher resolution also.
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I think David Kronstein and the guys working there are Well aware of the Fact, that there are way better sensors and other components.
But i dont think they went for maximum Performance technicaly possible here. More Like Most Performance for a reasonable amount of money and most Bang for Buck.
If you actually NEED Higher Quality or higher Framerate, you are propably in a position, where you would be able to afford to rent or Buy an Way more expensive camera anyways.
I think if they tried to compete with companys like Vision Research, RED, ARRI, Panasonic and the Like in terms of Bare Framerate-Perfomance, Resolution or Image-Quality, they would have quite a hard time because all of those Companys do their thing very well.
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I really hope and would love, if they make an Higher Res. Model at some Point, but for the Start of it, this sensor is good as is and a good choice and kind of a Sweetspot between Price and Performance. I allready asked, if they plan on producing a Follow-Up model but got no answer for that yet.
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Keep in mind, if you put Higher Resolution sensor or Faster sensors in a Camera, you will also need way more Powerfull processors to get all that Data away from your Sensor and somehow into your Memory, which also need to be Faster then. So, Price can go up pretty fast if you go with an "better" sensor. So it kind of depends, if they could make "affordeable" 1080p Highspeed a thing, if its crazy expensive, like all the allready existing cameras, then why would anyone buy it over the other cameras?

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Thanks for grading that, turned out to be really impressive looking, for just beeing shot in 1280x720 on an 1:1 Pixel sensor Readout.
You can kind of tell a bit, that there is sharpening going on in the image, but nothing distracting, or what an average person would see.
I also think, this would be indeed useable for 1080p Productions.
Especialy once you have Camera-Movement, since you wont see that much detail anyways when everything in Frame Moves fast enough.